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Oct 10 2018

WW: Works just fine…

Category: Door Closers,Wordless WednesdayLori @ 12:34 am Comments (15)
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Eyal Bedrik of Entry Systems Ltd. sent me this Wordless Wednesday video…who can diagnose the problem?

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15 Responses to “WW: Works just fine…”

  1. Eric Rieckers says:

    Just an observation: the door looks hinge bound. There doesn’t appear to be any undercut between the door and frame on the hinge side.

  2. Glenn Goulet says:

    Need a new door – the old door skin pulled away!

  3. Peter Schifferli says:

    Door apparently did not have proper internal reinforcement for surface closer mounting. Re-attach the closer with sex bolts and have a welder repair the door. If a labeled fire door, repair must be done by a certified shop.

    Pete Schifferli

  4. Frank Ehrman says:

    OOPS Worked for a while I bet …..A little to short on the screws…were are the ones that came with the closer

  5. Anthony Wan says:

    The installer didn’t use through bolts for that type of door. The hardware detailer probably put the wrong type of screws when ordering the product as well.

  6. Zlocksca says:

    They are using spring hinges and door closer when it should be one or the other not both

  7. Richard says:

    Closer not installed according to manufacturer instructions. No thru bolts…

  8. Barry Caesar says:

    If I’m not mistaken the arm was put on upside down

  9. Tony says:

    Door may not have closer reinforcement. Lite kit is high on door and may have cut through reinforcement welds.

  10. Vincent Chestnut says:

    One – sweep adjusted too fast.
    Two – Sex bolts are missing.

  11. james kahm says:

    Should have used sex bolts through the door and I also think the closer body is mounted a little close the the frame. but I am fairly new in the commercial aspect of our industry. just my thoughts.

  12. Gary J. Bakken, AHC says:

    It looks to me like an LCN 4010/4011 Right Hand Closer installed on a Left Hand (LH/RHR) Door and is the reason for the issue.

  13. ken davis says:

    Thats an LCN 4041. to begin with the sweep speed is way off and the closer arm is not fasten tightly to the closer body and yes now it needs thru-bolting. those LCN closers are not handed, can be used on right or left.

  14. Colins Jacob says:

    Closer not installed as per the installation locations? Closer seems way too closer to the Hinge, resulting in forces that tear apart the door.

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