Today’s Fixed-it Friday photos were taken in a couple of different NYC subway stations – the signs stating “unauthorized use prohibited” have been added in recent years. I know at least one AHJ who doesn’t like signs like this which deter use of the exit, but as far as I know, the codes do not prohibit them. Am I wrong about that? Or should a code change be proposed?
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There should be a code section saying no signs within five feet of a door or exit sign,
Exception : non exit related signs.
Will this door even open??? If you are not an employee?
They open, some of them are delayed egress and where the batteries aren’t dead an alarm sounds, but you can go through them.
Have allways struggled with this. To be safe, i use “EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY. ALARM WILL SOUND”. I avoid use of terms that make people think a special o need a key are card to get out. I have never been challanged on this text. And I’ve used it in some tough places.
Your not the only one, several store build out I’ve install the same signage on rear, back of house exits, the normal patron will steer clear, and deter others, the owner’s will advise workers not to use that exit also. And, no, there is no alarm hooked up to the exit door.
Looks like an illuminated exit sign would be in order, also.
A better approach would be to have an alarm on the door, key switch bypass for authorized users, and “alarm will sound” signage. Add a camera, too, if worried about who might be exiting here.
I would view the need for emergency egress as an authorized use; some others might not.
You can’t make this stuff up…
If not a re a required exit then remove the sign!
These doors are in every subway entry next to the turnstiles and are used exclusively to skip the required MTA fare (+ for handicap folks). Never seen one that was delayed egress nor tied to any alarm.
They are frequently used for strollers, bicycles, wheelchairs, walkers, grocery carts, and more. Many have recently been installed with delayed egress systems despite lack of signage.