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Jan 21 2015

WW: Shop Till You Drop

Since it’s Wordless Wednesday, I’ll let you tell me what’s wrong with this “key-operated lock” application.  Extra credit if you can tell me what changed about the key-operated lock requirements in the 2015 IBC.

Grocery Store Exit b

Grocery Store Padlock b

Thank you to Charles Anderson for the photos!

8 Responses to “WW: Shop Till You Drop”

  1. Cathy Kopp says:

    Oh, good grief! The broom shouldn’t be there. 😉

  2. Jess says:

    I see numbers of violations with the door,

    not only the broom (nice find Cathy!)

    the exposed wire on the door (this is what electrical transfer cables are for!)

    the padlock, that’s 3 motion egress!!

    and maybe some possible dead end wires, (is that a wire leading from the top of frame to the closer Pa bracket??)

    -Jess the door closer doctor

  3. lach says:

    The padlock is bad. I have no idea what is on the top of the door. Keyed alarm? But that wire transfer leaves much to be desired. The broom looks like it has a nice and cozy home though. Can’t say I’ve had a chance to look at the new 2015 IBC to know what changes were made.

  4. David R. DeFilippo AIA says:

    And drop you will in a fire or smoke condition. Are those breakaway pop rivets?

  5. Bob J says:

    Ingenious – – the floor mop doubles as a sill weather seal!

  6. Rich says:

    Lots of things here.

    Is this a rated door? If it is, the Detex does not relatch after activation.
    1. The Detex 230 should have the proper extension arm so that the device goes all the way across the door. The wire has been mentioned and is wrong.
    2 The Alarm Lock PG10 is in a dumb place at the top.
    3. If this is a rated door, it has holes that are a prob.
    4. An additional magnetic contact at the top to do what?
    5. Is that a wireless transmitter on the side near the top as well?
    6. The padlock and the broom are obvious.
    Reprint the door to remain unlocked sign on a ball bat so that it can be used to train and motivate management and maintenance

  7. Richard The Door Guy says:

    Look at the bright side…..
    Even if you can’t get out in an emergency
    there IS a fire extinguisher right there!!

  8. Ken Grayling says:

    That padlock appears to be retaining a home-made two-point bolt. Evidently the Detex panic alarm lock is past it otherwise they would not have needed the PG10 (which, Rich, is in the only place available and is not part of the problem). The cable is a low-voltage supply to supplement the Detex internal battery so is not dangerous (unless used as a ligature).

    Finally, I like Rich’s motivational ball-bat which I feel should be standard issue for us beleaguered ironmongers since verbal persuasion often goes in one ear and out the other.

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