At first glance, this might look like an LCN 4040 closer that has suffered an extreme failure, but it is actually a closer that is manufactured by another company to look like an LCN. #wordless
Looks can be deceiving, so make sure you’re getting the real deal!
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I have seen cracking in those knock-off bodies in the past. It’s an awful feeling when the client wants to save some money with cloneed type products and then within a year or two they have hairline fractures from the body. To make matters worse those imports usually need to see those clothes were bodies sent back to them for review and inspection and then we’ll fight you with very poor customer service responsiveness about a warranty claim and then usually sticky with freight both ways. Those closers certainly have their place in the world but clients need to understand the advantages and disadvantages of those knockoff clone copies.
Well said Richard, people wonder why I call the real deal LCN the Last Closer Needed, as well as try to assure a customer that it may be expensive now but only buy it once instead of have to replace the low quality 3rd world country manufactured chunk of iron some claim to be a “heavy duty door closer” every soo many months/years.
I hope to God no one was in the line of fire … ouch not only do I smell closer fluid but also Law suit
David, me knowing a good amount about overseas imported closers made especially in China or a fishing village area of the country, I smell fish oil, to me, yuck, there are times I would rather smell Liquid X instead!
About that severity of breakage, I wonder what the spring tension was set to? I would say about size 6,
Since it broke at the pinion shaft area, beginning to wonder if the rack or pinion broke a tooth off inside?
This is definitely the result of poor casting most of these units use an aluminum alloy. Along with inferior components inside . When and if I use then and believe me I don’t like too but ultimately it’s the customer’s money I’m spending I always tell them the pros and cons. Ben Franklin said it best “the bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten
Definitely not LCN, cast iron is too grainy and the color is wrong.
Valve screw allen kwy sizes too, LCN it is 3/32, this one appears to be 1/8, the notch next to backcheck valve and the gap between sweep and latch valves, shaped different compared to a real LCN.
I’m not trying to rile you guys up, but i find it interesting to note that i don’t see a bit of (fish) oil you were talking about on the door. that could be a reason for the breakage, but for this kind of catastrophic failure it makes you wonder what else was going on with this door and the installation. Or it could be just more “fake news”. LOL> >