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Apr 03 2019

WW: Let’s Book!

Category: Egress,Wordless WednesdayLori @ 12:59 pm Comments (12)
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Tom Reinhardt from the Skokie Fire Department sent me today’s Wordless Wednesday photos.  I have had requests for help specifying doors like this, but not on a marked exit!  This door is serving a business occupancy.  What do you think – OK, or NO WAY?

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12 Responses to “WW: Let’s Book!”

  1. Curtis Meskus says:

    Winner of the trifecta, obstructed, obscured and wrong swing

  2. Bill Elliott says:

    Looks like it is what is made by a company called The Murphy Door Company.
    You can check them out on line at TheMurphyDoor.com

  3. Ed Berkel says:

    Well, it depends. Is that really a required exit? If yes, then not allowed per IFC 1031.6 Finishes, furnishings and decorations. Means of
    egress doors shall be maintained in such a manner as to be distinguishable from the adjacent construction and finishes such that the doors are easily recognizable as doors. Furnishings, decorations or other objects shall not be placed so as to obstruct exits, access thereto, egress therefrom, or visibility thereof. Hangings and draperies shall not be placed over exit doors or otherwise be located to conceal or obstruct an exit. Mirrors shall not be placed on exit doors. Mirrors shall not be placed in or adjacent to any exit in such a manner as to confuse the direction of exit.

    If not, remove the Exit portion of the sign and may be ok.

    It is difficult to tell from the picture, but it almost looks as if the door can’t even open fully due to the location of the copy machine.

    Exit signs are only required when 2 or more exits are required from a space or room and that generally means OL>50. In that case, the door doesn’t comply as it swings against the direction of travel.

  4. Richard Leibowitz says:

    Not allowed 2015 IBC section 1010.1 Doors, Means of egress doors shall be readily distinguishable from adjacent construction and finishes such that the doors are easily recognizable as doors. etc

  5. Tony Klagenberg says:

    Doesn’t work for me. If egress paths have changed, take down the exit sign.

  6. Dave Taschuk says:

    Definatly not in this space, the door swings in to the right, behind a photo copier and it’s confusing because it looks like a book case and don’t see a handle.
    Our code here is door can swing in as long as occupancy is under 60 and has a lever so inswing wouldn’t be an issue as long as it’s under 60 people but because it swings away from the wall that would be the issue and that there is a photo copier in the way.
    Non fire exit door it wouldn’t be an issue.

  7. Robert Dooley says:

    Hopefully that’s not the only exit! The position of the hinge pins and the piece of equipment would preclude any rapid exit – latch edge swings back toward the equipment. One person at a time, slowly! I’m curious where this “exit” leads to.

  8. DAVID FEDERICO says:

    In a word …Wrong.!!! So many code violations . What inspector looked at this and did nothing …

  9. Lach says:

    Is it just me or is there only one hinge on this door?
    Additionally this door looks pretty darn thick too. Will it allow for the ADA 32″ minimum clear opening width (4.13.5) (putting aside if it is a required egress path and how wide it would need to be by occupancy)? And by the looks of it, it doesn’t appear to follow any of the ADA required approaching maneuvering clearance dimensions (4.13.6). With ADA and the above listed codes from other comments I would have to say it wouldn’t be allowed.

  10. MartinB says:

    Much strange here. The item on the upper right which looks like a hinge has nothing comparable below it. So what is it.
    It makes more sense the door swings away from us. With on operating hardware, I guess it could be push-pull only.

    And yet, envision a need to use this door and pushing it. Would not some or all the books fall toward you? Instant tripping hazard.

    This is all kinds of wrong.

  11. nitramaed says:

    Is this even a door? or just a shelf infill for where there was a opening. Exit sign obviously complicates this.

  12. Rich McKie says:

    This doesn’t solve any of the questions but It has been fun sleuthing.
    The bookcase/door seems to be in the lobby of a bank. The security monitor near the door appears
    to show the image from the camera next to the exit sign. You can see the service area in the image.
    I don’t know if banks have special rules but regardless this whole exit sign, door/bookcase thing is mighty confusing! 🙂

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