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Feb 21 2018

WW: Retrofit Security

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15 Responses to “WW: Retrofit Security”

  1. Cda says:

    1. More than likely not a rated door.

    2. Right side door may or may not work.

    3. Two operations to open the door, if the panic hardware latches.

    4. Card or something to enter the building,,
    With wiring running through hole in door.

  2. Kenneth Einselen says:

    Whoa! That looks like TWO operations to exit. Push there and then here.

  3. Raymond Holman, AHC says:

    Wow. Where to start? I wonder what they’ve done to the right hand door (LHR) to prevent it’s use? Where does that wire on the “active” door go to? What trim is on the outside that they have to control it with a mag? No security going out so something is going on. Passage knob or thumbpiece or maybe they dog it during the day and keep people out via the mag lock? It looks like it’s on the exterior so I’m doubting a passage function (unless it’s due to hardware failure). I wonder how the mag lock affects the door position switches on the active leaf? You can barely seem them but they’re there. And what’s with that mag lock bracket????? Lemme guess. A hotel?

  4. Dustin Sharp says:

    Wow!! Is it even possible to use this as an exit? There is probably astragal on the “inactive leaf” preventing the “active leaf” from opening even after all 500 steps you have to complete to get out. I think I would take my chances on running through the fire before heading to this pair of doors to expect to get out alive in the event of an emergency. 🙂

  5. Jack says:

    Looks like a “Z” Bracket was used for the Maglock, But Not needed for push mount, and not mounted correct, as a Z-mount is for pull side mounting, what is the wire in the door doing? or is the Mag-Lock mounted to the door not the frame? also looks like an open back strike? so no need for a coordinator


  6. Jack says:

    Also looks like they could use a Request to Exit to release the Maglock

  7. Eric says:

    Is the magnet on the RHR leaf overlapping the LHR leaf? If so, that’s a death-trap opening.

  8. Larry munn says:


  9. Larry munn says:

    This business is not rocket science !! People just need to educate themselves prior to installing or specifying any type of door hardware !! NFPA 101 , NFPA 80. ??

  10. Bryan says:

    Wow! I mean WOW! and the wiring presumably done by a licensed electrician.
    Again, WOW!

  11. John says:

    My pet peeve: Missing closer covers.

  12. Tony Klagenberg says:

    Rip the whole thing out and start over. If they do not like that, maybe the Fire Marshall will help them see it differently.

  13. Ian Greene says:

    Missing closer covers
    Two function egress
    Mag installed in such a way to make an upcharge for the Z bracket
    Second wire run from frame to mid door is likely a keypad or reader of some kind
    Additional wires from the top of the frame going right to some unknown item(s)
    Plastic chain barrier is another no no
    No visible exit sign above door but the paper sign on the chain says emergency exit.

    Lots to fix………

  14. Joel says:

    This is what happens when you don’t have the budget or knowledge for electrified vertical rods

  15. warren says:

    You might get out on the LHR leaf , although with the Sargent 350 mounted at 90* no way meets ADA at least in my town. The Z channel maybe used because of a narrow stop??

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