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Oct 06 2017

FF: Doggie Door?

Category: Egress,Fixed-it Friday,Panic HardwareLori @ 12:12 am Comments (15)
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Guess what this is for.  And once you figure it out, what do you think about the potential impact on free egress?  This is a required means of egress and there is an exit sign (it’s not a fire door).

15 Responses to “FF: Doggie Door?”

  1. Bob Caron says:

    Since it’s Fix-it-Friday and you are implying that it will have an impact on free egress, it has to be a crazy idea. The little door is so that they can run a water hose from one side to the other without having to leave the big door open. At first I thought that maybe there was no trim or cylinder on the pull side and if you had to get in, you can open the little door and reach up to push the exit device pad.

  2. Dave Matas says:

    It’s a “Hose” door.

  3. cda says:

    Dang

    Smart group !!

    I had to ask

  4. Lee Francisco says:

    Isn’t that going to be an ADA issue?

  5. Fred Collier says:

    Positive Pressure / Negative Pressure release

  6. Daniel Poehler says:

    It’s a built-in mail box for a key, a lockbox that’s built in to the door.

  7. Daniel Poehler says:

    Lori,
    Picture a 2 story restaurant with an outdoor second floor dining area. The area has over 50 occupants, one exterior stair and an egress door back into the interior leading to another stair. This door requires a panic device, so how do I provide security after hours to an inward swinging door with a panic device that could potentially be an entry point for a robber?
    I don’t know how to email you other than the blog replies, so I apologize if my question has gone through an improper channel.
    Thanks…

    • Lori says:

      Hi Dan –

      You can email me at lori.greene@allegion.com and sometimes I’ll be able to see and respond to the question more quickly. It’s not easy being a one-woman show! 🙂

      Because the restaurant has more than 50 occupants, you need 2 means of egress. This means that the door back into the building must meet the requirements for an egress door. Technically, the panic hardware is required and the door must allow free egress (and therefore access to the building) at all times, but I understand the problem.

      If the occupant load of the restaurant is 300 people or less, one possibility is to use a key-operated lock as allowed by the IBC (see below) instead of panic hardware. Approval should be requested from the AHJ because this section is typically applied to the main door of the building, not the main door of a space within the building.

      1010.1.9.3 Locks and latches. Locks and latches shall be permitted to prevent operation of doors where any of the following exist:

      2. In buildings in occupancy Group A having an occupant load of 300 or less, Groups B, F, M and S, and in places of religious worship, the main door or doors are permitted to be equipped with key-operated locking devices from the egress side provided:
      2.1. The locking device is readily distinguishable as locked.
      2.2. A readily visible durable sign is posted on the egress side on or adjacent to the door stating: THIS DOOR TO REMAIN UNLOCKED WHEN THIS SPACE IS OCCUPIED. The sign shall be in letters 1 inch (25 mm) high on a contrasting background.
      2.3. The use of the key-operated locking device is revokable by the building official for due cause.

      – Lori

  8. Joel Niemi says:

    doggie door for a pet python?

  9. Anthony Wan says:

    Could be a door for the charging cable for a plug in electric car.

  10. Deanne says:

    It’s at Geico headquarters, for the little gecko to go in and out.

  11. Kent Usher says:

    Does not comply with ICC A117.1 404.2.9.

  12. Marco Merchiori says:

    I am guessing it is a door to allow a line to be brought without leaving the door open. Again which would impede the opening of the door.

  13. Holly Brisby-King says:

    Wow, just wow!!! What people will do to exit doors!!

    I’m agreeing with the hose access…

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