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May 24 2019

FF: Low Light

Category: Doors & Frames,Fixed-it FridayLori @ 12:50 am Comments (13)
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At first glance you might think that this door was the wrong hand and was just flipped in the opening, but based on the hardware prep locations it looks like the vision light was actually installed in the bottom.  How/why do you think this happened?  Could it have been intentional?

Thank you to Collin Birkett of Prevent Life Safety for today’s Fixed-it Friday photo!

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13 Responses to “FF: Low Light”

  1. Charles a says:

    Guide dog was hit once?

    Stretcher accidents?

  2. Lach says:

    Just speculation, but I feel the “Keep area clear” sign has something to do with it. Maybe someone left something they shouldn’t have there and punched a hole in a mineral core door (based on the wire glass) when someone swung the door open. And instead of replacing a door they put in a rated lite kit and called it a day? Again all just speculation.

  3. Jeff Tock says:

    I’m not sure why the lite is located there, but they are in serious need of ADA upgrades! There is ZERO maneuvering clearance, and isn’t there something that says “no tight grasping, no twisting of the wrist”…?

  4. James Kahm says:

    I think this door was field modified by the maintenance dept. I think he thought he was cutting the door correctly with the lite at the top and made a mistake, then rolled with it. either that or before it was the radiology department it was a clinic for the sight impaired and that was a lite for guide dogs.

  5. Brian Droste says:

    I’d guess similar to the first comment, probably to limit accidents perhaps while maintaining a little privacy. Check for feet and objects before you push the door open.

    All that being said, what good is a “Fire Extinguisher Inside” label on the locked door? I’ve seen this on more than one door and has never made sense to me. Perhaps a legacy code requirement or just some confusion?

  6. Leslie says:

    Jeff – At least the bottom of the lite is 43 inches or less above the finished floor! Not sure that is the intent though…

  7. Nelson says:

    I agree, for privacy for radiology patients, while still allowing for a visual that someone is on the outside of the door before someone flings the door open when leaving.

  8. Bryan says:

    Someone rings the annunciator on the door, someone else comes to answer and can see if the first someone is standing there and opens the door based on that.

  9. LarryG says:

    Well, if I was crawling down a smoke filled corridor this lite would be at just about perfect eye level… strike that, don’t want to give the code writers any terribly bad ideas we could all do without.

    Have actually seen somewhat similar in some psych facilities for elopement prevention when the door is opened and someone is crouching down on the other side below a normal height lite.

  10. Colins Jacob says:

    Is it similar to providing louvers in some restroom doors?

  11. Krystina says:

    Are we POSITIVE the preps were in the right place? Some wood door manufacturers of lead lined doors have wider stiles and rails on all sides. For all we know, instead of specialized blocking, they just had a solid top and bottom rail and equal width stiles. You could still install this hardware like this and end up with the door upside down, right?

  12. Jacob says:

    Understandable. I’ve had several doors made with 2 nl’s. One on top as standard, and a second on bottom. The reasoning? To see beyond the closed door in daycare applications.

    In this application, perhaps a seniors, or enhanced care facility for people with low mobility.

    To you or I, yes, it looks goofy and out of place, but it serves a function I suppose.

  13. Jerry Tyson says:

    Maybe that is the lab where they keep that shrinking ray from “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” or “Downsizing”, and they want to make sure those little folks can see if someone is coming.

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