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May 14 2019

A Little Help?

Category: Locks & Keys,Protection PlatesLori @ 12:56 am Comments (15)
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I have two requests for help that I can’t answer – I’m hoping someone out there in Locklandia can.

1) This all-glass door needs a new deadbolt.  The original lock is long-gone, but this is the cut-out.  Any ideas?

 

2) The bumper on this door is the only thing that’s keeping the lever from being knocked off by cart traffic.  The problem?  This is a fire door assembly and the bumper is not listed to UL 10C.  Does anyone know of protective hardware like this that is listed for use on a fire door assembly?

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15 Responses to “A Little Help?”

  1. cda says:

    Cut two oversized metal plate plates, one for each side

    Bolt together in place

    Drill hole for lock and install??

    Something along those steps.

    For the door, get rid of bumper and add a sign, you hit you pay or some other wording??

    Automatic operator ??

  2. carl.kwechin@am.jll.com says:

    For the glass door look at a CRL patch lock, but you need to know the glass thickness. I too am in need of a UL listed bumper.

  3. Peter Piecewicz says:

    Try looking at CR Laurence patch locks for the glass door. Cutout looks a lot like EUR680A

  4. Collin says:

    I know Rockwood makes a few different protection bars, but I am not sure if they are listed.

  5. Luis says:

    Fire door. Same problem we are having nothing we can find to protect the fire door that’s listed

  6. Peter Schifferli says:

    Looks like a CRL EH100 plunger lock prep. Available in brass or chrome, for 1/4″ or 3/8″ glass. See link: http://www.crlaurence.com/crlapps/showline/offerpage.aspx?Productid=8461&GroupID=8624&History=39327:54973:8553&ModelID=8624

  7. Angie says:

    We just had the same issue on a project and the only labeled guards we could find were the Trimco PG8000 series. They are meant for exit devices but I suppose you could get creative.

  8. Peter Schifferli says:

    Looks like a C.R. Laurence “EH” Series plunger lock notch, for 1/4″ or 3/8″ glass; Cat. No. EH100 brass or EH102 chrome finish.

  9. Joe Siegler says:

    Here is the pertinent spec section for an InPro Model 412 Lever Door Handle Protector. Hopefully it’s helpful.

    1.04 SYSTEM DESCRIPTION
    A. Performance Requirements: Provide door handle protectors that conform to the following requirements of regulatory agencies and the quality control of IPC Door and Wall Protection Systems, InPro Corporation.
    1. Fire Performance Characteristics: Provide UL Classified Cladding Material for fire door and fire door frames intended for application on listed door frames used with hollow metal and steel covered composite type fire doors rated up to 3 hours in accordance with UL 10B. Provide cUL (Canada accepted) Cladding Material intended for application on listed fire door frames used on hollow metal and steel composite type fire doors rated up to 3 hours in accordance with CAN4-S104-M80.
    2. Fire Performance Characteristics: Provide UL Classified Cladding Material for doors and door frames intended for application on classified door frames used with wood composite and wood core type fire doors rated up to 1-1/2 hours in accordance with UL 10B. Provide cUL (Canada accepted) Cladding Material intended for application on classified wood composite and wood core type fire doors rated up to 1-1/2 hours in accordance with CAN4-S104-M80.

  10. don Funsch says:

    I have used Rockwood HD2240 AND HD2250.The AHJ has accepted both be cause their are steel, although not officially labeled. Works well in medical facilities and residence buildings.

  11. Darren K Patton says:

    Trimco is the only company that has fire rated protection protectors. I asked several years ago Trimco was the only one who stepped up to the plate. Rockwood thought and probably still do think I am a lunatic. They were very befuddled through the whole conversation as why it had to be fire rated. I was dismissed. I have an extensive photo album non rated protectors. I just love what I do! In Tennessee they just say ” It will be alright” but in a southern draw all ran together.

  12. David Federico says:

    As stated by others here I would definitely check CR Laurence glass door hardware section . As far as the door protection/bumpers as long as the material is non flammable and is secured in accordance with fire door assemblies it should be fine.

  13. Dwight Isaacs says:

    Hi guys! I just wanted to say thank you for the help with the glass door bolt. It is the CRL. Thanks again.

  14. Chad Shiner says:

    Check with Curran Engineering Products for the cart guard.

  15. Kent Usher says:

    DAMS Incorporated (Doralco) “Slimline Center Lock” fits a 2.875″ by 2.188″ cutout. The body measures 3.5″ by 2.5″. I couldn’t find the detail directly at http://www.damsinc.com, but this supplier’s website shows it well: https://www.designerpages.com/products/103071-Slimline-Glass-Door-Center-Lock-Housings

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