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Aug 08 2018

WW: Seem legit to you?

Category: Fire Doors,Wordless WednesdayLori @ 12:03 am Comments (17)
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Any theories?  Seen in a nursing home.

 

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17 Responses to “WW: Seem legit to you?”

  1. Austin Bammann says:

    That strike prep is legit too. Is there even a closer on the door???

  2. carl says:

    I’m going to guess the door was ordered as a blank and the installer put the hardware on the wrong edge.

  3. Terry Crump says:

    That label was removed from another door and nailed onto the wrong side of this one. (Both of the original nail holes have been broken off. That typically happens when you try to remove a label)

  4. John says:

    Not legit, can’t read the Warnock Hersey number. No way of finding where it came from.

  5. Bryan says:

    Label was lifted (and nearly destroyed) from another door, poorly trimmed to hide the prying evidence and reapplied.
    The door, around the latch bolt, is chewed up from people loiding the latch.
    Clearly a two-legged problem.

  6. christa says:

    label added after the fact to pass inspection?

  7. Kent Krauser says:

    Sure, that is legit! I also have a bridge for sale! ‘Em mylar labels aren’t recyclable like the metal ones! LOL!

  8. Bruce Coners says:

    Terry is right. This label has been reapplied from another door. The culprit was not informed about fire doors enough even put it on hinge side of door.

  9. Wayne Yancey says:

    I say yes.
    According to the red lebel (WH) color, the door is 90 minutes.
    As you wrote per NFPA 80 4.2.2 Labels shall be applied in locations that are readily visible and convenient for identification by the AHJ after installation of the assembly.
    My belief is labels are usually on the jamb side stile of the door leaf. That is where they are located on the doors/frames to exit stairs in my hi-rise building. Doors are 9 feet tall. Labels on frame and door are above 72 inches, but readily visible.

  10. Wayne Yancey says:

    Terry,

    Not necessarily true. Rivets are used in labels to steel frames and doors. Looks to me the nails were placed in the rivet holes. Definitely looks like the label was scavenged from a steel door.

  11. Raymond Holman, AHC says:

    I agree, the label has been removed and reapplied. Not the first time I’ve seen that happen. Just as illegal now as it was the first dozen (or more) times I’ve seen it. It’s especially fun when the mfr name on the label does not match the stamps on the door (not counting licensed distributors).

  12. Jack Ostergaard says:

    At least it wasn’t painted over.

  13. Craig Ordmandy says:

    The label was definitely moved because one nail is placed right in the middle of the listing agency’s logo. In fact, you can see the half hole at the top of the label. Why, it was moved, one can only speculate but regardless, it is NOT legit.

  14. Roscher says:

    You have to applaud the effort ha

  15. David Federico says:

    It’s just wrong . Would not take a seasoned inspector to know this has been tampered with . When people do this they open the entire can of worms. Could result in a complete audit of all doors frames etc .. a world of hurt and expense

  16. Dwight says:

    There is damage to the door on the beside the latch plate AND I love the latch is held in by dry wall screws.

  17. Kent Usher says:

    Jeremiah 17:9

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