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Mar 14 2018

WW: Ouverte (ou non)

Category: Egress,Wordless WednesdayLori @ 12:32 am Comments (10)

Today’s Wordless Wednesday photos are from a very large expo center. Although the creative slide bolt was unlocked when the photo was taken, it’s scary to think about the potential for human error, or lack of egress for firefighters who might be in the building when it is otherwise unoccupied.  Take a close look and let me know what you think – yea or nay?

Thank you to Frederic Horrell of Allegion for the photos!

10 Responses to “WW: Ouverte (ou non)”

  1. cda says:


    Plus it enters a stair.

    Multi level building??? Rentry ?

    Plus the shower bar at the top, to play hide the door!!!

    • Frederic Horrell says:

      Good catch on the shower rod!! I missed that.

      Two questions come to mind after closely inspecting these images:

      – Wouldn’t the exposed 1/2″ hole for the hasp nullify the fire rating?

      – For this one I’ve received different opinions: does the push pad portion of the panic device have to REACH or MEASURE 50% of door width?

  2. cda says:

    I guess it says closed on the other side

    When it is closed and padlocked??

    Old fashion indicator!! Ahead of its time

  3. Lee Francisco says:

    Is there a large gap at the top of the door?

  4. Dave says:

    That looks like a terrible method to secure a stairwell from re-entry, makes me wonder if the Open/Closed sign is visible from within the stairwell?

    The other issue I’ve noticed is that the door frame appears to have a large air gap between itself and the exit sign above; I’d like to think it was glazing, however it looks to me to be open air (imo the sign appears to extend through into the stairwell side also).

  5. David Federico says:

    The fact that this is a fire exit door leading to a stairwell . Then there are a number of things wrong . First the door has been altered /compromised with the addition of non compliant hardware. It now also impedes egress (in the event some one does not unlock it). A panic alarm kit if available for this model of device could have been used . Or a surface mounted exit alarm in a remote area for all to hear with just magnetic contacts on the door .
    In short my answer is a definite nay..

  6. Dwight H Havens says:

    one word Wednesday…Wow!

  7. Clair E Gunnet Jr AHC says:

    A more serious emergency arises when the slide bolt is engaged and people cannot exit during an emergency! Also the operable portion of the exit device looks a bit short for the width of the door.

  8. Joel Niemi says:

    It’s a nice touch how the fluted concrete formwork was interrupted so that the surface-mounted fire alarm pull had a flat surface to mount on. Visually topped off by the surface-mounted conduit. Sacre bleu!

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