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Jan 19 2018

FF: Branching Out

Category: Fixed-it Friday,Panic HardwareLori @ 12:51 am Comments (18)
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Howard Krutzler of Mr. K’s Lock and Key sent me this photo of a panic hardware modification he found.  For the record, panic hardware is UL listed and can not be modified except as allowed by the listings.  I’m pretty sure this doesn’t qualify.

18 Responses to “FF: Branching Out”

  1. Cda says:

    I think it would pass the furnace test??

  2. Leo says:

    It’s “FIRE rated” it will burn well in fire 😉

  3. Charles W. Hart says:

    It looks rather rustic

  4. Kent Krauser says:

    Wow! Now that is what I call true wood grain!

  5. Curt Norton, CSI CCS says:

    And you couldn’t possibly pinch fingers in there either…

  6. Eric Rieckers says:

    That is the most redneck thing I’ve seen all week.

  7. Carl says:

    I expect to see a lot of fingers getting hurt using it. Looks like the dead bolt below it needs some attention also.

  8. David Kenyon says:

    Hmm – Curious about the specie of wood related to smoke developed and flame spread – not that it matters because whoever performed this hardware substitution was not in compliance with code issues related to hardware modifications in the field. What happened to the cover plate and it also appears that the locking cylinder has been removed. Rustic as they say !!

  9. Robert Spicher says:

    I wood not accept it.

  10. Tim S says:

    My company makes frames, so hardware isn’t my specialty, but I’m not seeing any way for that to latch. If I’m right, and it’s just a push-pull opening at this point, does it present any actual limitations from the egress standpoint (other than the people who can’t leave because they’re too caught up in gawking at the shillelagh mod)? I’m just curious…codes aren’t my specialty either.

  11. Mike Soutar says:

    Can it be dogged?

  12. Pete Schifferli says:

    Lori, I must take exception to your statement that “panic hardware is UL listed”. I believe that only certain devices are UL listed to satisfy UL and Warnock Hersey safety and fire requirements and that generally means that no dogging device is allowed to prevent latching. No criticism of my esteemed colleague Howard Krutzler is intended or implied.

  13. DAVID FEDERICO says:

    Very much an antique . Used in a rustic setting. Cabin in the woods .. Perhaps an experimental fire wood . However seeing that the door is not rated, Glass and Aluminum and that the Adams Rite Panic device is installed above the AR latch or deadbolt below it violates the readily openable one hand operation

  14. Tony Park says:

    at least it’s 1/2 door width!

  15. Steve Isaac says:

    Hi Lori
    If this is a fire exit device AR model 3300 it can only be installed on HM or wood.
    If it is the 8300 however it would be the life safety rated device and could probably use some TLC.

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