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Nov 06 2012

WWYD? Sliding Door

Category: Sliding and Folding Doors,WWYD?Lori @ 4:50 pm Comments (9)
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I’ve stayed at several hotels lately that had a sliding door on the bathroom within the hotel room.  This solves some coordination issues involving the door swing and the method of stopping the door, but creates questions of its own.  What type of sliding door hardware do you prefer for a solid core sliding door?  And what type of latch do you use for privacy?

Here’s the door from one of my recent hotel stays:

As you can see, they went to great lengths to install a surface bolt on the jamb, which would project into the face of the door.  A few issues:

  • In my room, the surface bolt would not engage in the strike.  This would be extremely difficult to coordinate given the tight tolerances, and any settling of the door would cause a problem.
  • If the bolt had been able to engage, it would have provided privacy for me, but would not have allowed someone to unlock the door in an emergency (I’ve traveled with kids waaaaaay too much).
  • The first time someone leaves the bolt projected and slides the door, there will be a lovely horizontal scratch across the door.
  • The pulls were a style that I would consider accessible, and the hardware could be accessed from both sides when the door was fully-open as required by the accessibility standards.  But I would not consider the small surface bolt to be accessible.  Not every hotel room needs to be accessible, but the bolt would take so much dexterity to engage, that it’s not much use to anyone.

So what would you do?  What’s your favorite sliding door hardware and your best solution for a privacy latch on a sliding door?  Does your top choice meet the accessibility requirements?

9 Responses to “WWYD? Sliding Door”

  1. Joel Niemi says:

    The cleverest arrangement I’ve ever seen is at the Pan Pacific Hotel in Vancouver, BC, Canada.

    One door, two frames joined at the hinge jamb. In position #1, door closed off the entire bathroom. In position #2, door rotated 90 degrees to just close off the tub/shower and watercloset; sink area now open to the rest of the room. Door swing in either position did not affect access into the room from the hall door.

    I was on a trip with a group of other architects. “Did you see how / figure out how / they did the bathroom door?” was the first topic of dinner conversation, and a few napkins were used up trying to figure it out.

  2. Travis Willis says:

    I like the PC Henderson aka Pemko track systems the best. They have a good quality track and roller set up and a variety of options for applications. Hafelle is nice as well and even some of the Hager set ups work well. Rockwood has a new vertical pull that might work for privacy. The problem is that the door rarely stops against a jamb to use a latch of any sort. The real question is do you really need “privacy” beyond just shutting the door?

  3. Daniel Ferry, AHC says:

    Trimco has a sliding door pull semi-privacy latch that meets ADA. The 1069L.
    Not great privacy.
    It will not allow the door to slide between stops in the closed position.
    Also, it will unlock/unlatch from either side, thus the term semi-privacy.
    Major drawback is the weak latching mechanism and lock case.
    Another product that I have used before is a Winkhaus sliding door lock.
    Lever handles get installed vertically, does meet ADA, and it can be self latching.
    Overall a pretty decent product with good functionality. Mainly an office or entry type lock.
    However, it has very weak distribution channels (had to purchase through an Ace Hardware in CA), is quite expensive, and only uses the European style keyed cylinders.
    So you cannot key it into the rest of the project.
    I am sure that there are numerous other products out there, but these are 2 that you do not see everyday.

  4. Jeff Quigley says:

    Beautiful doors with a preplexing problem. Seems to me, a good solution would be to extend the open-side jamb outward to act as a positive stop for the sliding door. You then could plant an Ives 991 sliding door pull in the door panel. With thumbturn keys on both sides, it provides accessibility with a measure of privacy.

  5. Brad Keyes says:

    I would stay at the local Hampton Inn… They never have anything that fancy.

  6. James Caron says:

    Accurate lock has a new privacy lever type for pocket doors that gives privacy and is ADA compliant. I’m not a fan of pocket doors though because a pain to service. I do like the surface mounted door look (like in your photo) but that does present locking challenges….

  7. James Caron says:

    Accurate 2001ADA-Pull (sorry, meant to list the part number

  8. Joe says:

    I personally like Accurate pocket door lock. You can get a large thumb turn and it has an occupancy indicator available as well. http://www.accuratelockandhardware.com/newsletters/06122012.html

  9. Dan Droker says:

    Our standard hardware for sliding doors is the Baldwin Sliding Door Lock series. It is available in a variety of functions, including privacy.

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