Lori is the Manager, Codes and Resources for Allegion, and the creator of iDigHardware. With more than 35 years of experience in the door and hardware industry, in her current role she focuses exclusively on the code requirements that apply to door openings.
The best part is that they DID paint over the scotch tape.
Charlie Hobbs
February 15, 2012 at 12:28 pm - Reply
It seems to be a frame label being used on a door!
But who reads fire labels. They just look for a label and if it has a label it is a labeled opening.
It appears to be a Frame Label, taped to the soffit of the frame. There appears to be a SS Continuous hinge installed. The Label would have been covered by the hinge if it had been attached.
This was obviously never installed on a door or frame, or they were a magician getting it off but then to be that good taking it off and this is your reinstall finish product seems odd.
When I got in the business and still to this day have people ask me for labels and have been told about people by name that use to just sell them to GC’s and I still hear about it today.
With that being said has anyone ever heard of WH or UL going after a company and pulling their ability to label?
i do like the sticker that says do not prop open Fire Door. as far as the taped label, it is apparent a labeled shop did not do that, so the Fire Inspector had no problem pointing out the deficiency
My personal favorite was when I had a customer who had painted over all of their labels. When I brought this to their attention they told me they were in the process of fixing the problem. A week later I stopped by and discovered labels that had been printed, laminated and superglued to the doors.
Just wondering (UL told me it was privileged information and declined to share it) how many fire-rated doors are installed in the US?
I’m guessing that the serial numbers are not totally sequential; that is, manufacturers / fabricators are issued “X” labels, and they restock when they run out.
I noted about 12 or so years ago on a DoD project that the stairwell doors that were going to be installed had the very same serial number on each one.
At least they didn’t paint over the label.
Don’t you just love it…. How organizations can be so resourceful?
It’s the portable door label… Just take it down and move it to wherever you need it!
The best part is that they DID paint over the scotch tape.
It seems to be a frame label being used on a door!
But who reads fire labels. They just look for a label and if it has a label it is a labeled opening.
It appears to be a Frame Label, taped to the soffit of the frame. There appears to be a SS Continuous hinge installed. The Label would have been covered by the hinge if it had been attached.
This was obviously never installed on a door or frame, or they were a magician getting it off but then to be that good taking it off and this is your reinstall finish product seems odd.
When I got in the business and still to this day have people ask me for labels and have been told about people by name that use to just sell them to GC’s and I still hear about it today.
With that being said has anyone ever heard of WH or UL going after a company and pulling their ability to label?
i do like the sticker that says do not prop open Fire Door. as far as the taped label, it is apparent a labeled shop did not do that, so the Fire Inspector had no problem pointing out the deficiency
My personal favorite was when I had a customer who had painted over all of their labels. When I brought this to their attention they told me they were in the process of fixing the problem. A week later I stopped by and discovered labels that had been printed, laminated and superglued to the doors.
Why not go after the company that provided the label. This is part of the reason for the serial numbers, to be able to track the label.
Just wondering (UL told me it was privileged information and declined to share it) how many fire-rated doors are installed in the US?
I’m guessing that the serial numbers are not totally sequential; that is, manufacturers / fabricators are issued “X” labels, and they restock when they run out.
Hi Joel –
I don’t think anyone knows the answer to this question. Millions and millions is my best guess.
– Lori
I noted about 12 or so years ago on a DoD project that the stairwell doors that were going to be installed had the very same serial number on each one.